bug in no_repeat option & feedback for likert scale

isadiskin
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bug in no_repeat option & feedback for likert scale Oct 28, 2019 5:54:44 GMT

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Post by isadiskin on Oct 28, 2019 5:54:44 GMT

Dear all,

I am having problems to solve these two issues in my code.
1. I need the text stimuli (URLs) in the following list to be presented only once and without repetition. So each subject will be presented with 80 different URLs. Currently I used the function no_repeat but it doesn't matter. some stimuli are shown twice. This seems to be a bug in the program.
2. How can I give feedback (correct or incorrect) depending on individual's response on a likert scale? For example, if one rates high a known URL (rating from 4 or 5 in the Likert scale) they feedback = "correct" , if they rate low a known URL in the likert scale (1, 2,) feedback = incorrect? So far I am successfully collecting responses during the experiment using a scale, but I cannot give feedback.

Any idea will be of great help!

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# enter code
options
fullscreen

fonts
arial 24

bitmaps
instructions
thanks
example
experiment
errorfeedback
Notrust
trust
scale
earn

table trainconditions
"real re" 1 "google.com" 0 0
"real re" 2 "youtube.com" 0 0
"real re" 3 "facebook.com" 0 0
"real re" 4 "baidu.com" 0 0
"real re" 5 "wikipedia.org" 0 0
"real re" 6 "amazon.com" 0 0
"real re" 7 "yahoo.com" 0 0
"real re" 8 "twitter.com" 0 0
"real re" 9 "instagram.com" 0 0
"real re" 10 "ebay.com" 0 0
"gene u_1" 11 "skhu.com" 0 0
"gene u_10" 12 "blogspo6.com" 0 0
"gene u_11" 13 "loglm.tmall.com" 0 0
"gene u_13" 14 "aliexpresx.com" 0 0
"gene u_14" 15 "netfnix.com" 0 0
"gene u_16" 16 "linkddin.com" 0 0
"gene u_12" 17 "gifhub.com" 0 0
"gene u_10" 18 "aliexprexs.com" 0 0
"gene u_16" 19 "aplle.com" 0 0
"gene u_18" 20 "qqora.com" 0 0
"gene u_6" 21 "wbatsapp.com" 0 0
"gene u_8" 22 "wordppess.com" 0 0
"gene u_16" 23 "bbc.oc.uk" 0 0
"gene u_4" 24 "sptoify.com" 0 0
"gene u_10" 25 "tumblp.com" 0 0
"gene u_5" 26 "espm.com" 0 0
"gene u_20" 27 "pinteresr.com" 0 0
"gene u_4" 28 "mediefire.com" 0 0
"gene u_12" 29 "cnm.com" 0 0
"gene u_12" 30 "walnart.com" 0 0
"gene u_18" 31 "theguaddian.com" 0 0
"gene u_7" 32 "qlobo.com" 0 0
"gene u_14" 33 "ofvice.com" 0 0
"gene u_11" 34 "paypel.com" 0 0
"gene u_19" 35 "dailymotlon.com" 0 0
"gene u_11" 36 "adobg.com" 0 0
"gene u_15" 37 "drotbox.com" 0 0
"gene u_9" 38 "braigslist.org" 0 0
"gene u_2" 39 "mezsenger.com" 0 0
"gene u_17" 40 "indoatimes.com" 0 0
"gene u_19" 41 "mozilka.org" 0 0
"gene u_17" 42 "dailymaol.co.uk" 0 0
"gene u_17" 43 "redned.cn" 0 0
"gene u_1" 44 "daijing.com.cn" 0 0
"gene u_1" 45 "laibaba.com" 0 0
"gene u_4" 46 "steanpowered.com" 0 0
"gene u_4" 47 "sofvonic.com" 0 0
"gene u_9" 48 "cnep.com" 0 0
"gene u_9" 49 "china.c0rn.cn" 0 0
"gene u_6" 50 "doubleclkck.net" 0 0
"gene u_6" 51 "kissanhme.ru" 0 0
"gene u_20" 52 "diverr.com" 0 0
"gene u_20" 53 "edoclick.com" 0 0
"gene u_8" 54 "blickr.com" 0 0
"gene u_8" 55 "my.com" 0 0
"gene u_13" 56 "evito.ru" 0 0
"gene u_13" 57 "flipkzrt.com" 0 0
"gene u_11" 58 "geinus.com" 0 0
"gene u_11" 59 "nedium.com" 0 0
"gene u_10" 60 "livejasnin.com" 0 0
"test te" 61 "ameba.jp" 1 1
"test te" 62 "clarin.com" 1 1
"test te" 63 "liveleak.com" 1 1
"test te" 64 "plurk.com" 1 1
"test te" 65 "reverb.com" 1 1
"test te" 66 "strava.com" 1 1
"test te" 67 "fetlife.com" 1 1
"test te" 68 "stanford.edu" 1 1
"test te" 69 "hujiang.com" 1 1
"test te" 70 "jamnews.com" 1 1
"test te" 71 "atlassian.net" 1 1
"test te" 72 "haberler.com" 1 1
"test te" 73 "pelispedia.tv" 1 1
"test te" 74 "xozilla.com" 1 1
"test te" 75 "mysearch.com" 1 1
"test te" 76 "dribbble.com" 1 1
"test te" 77 "viki.com" 1 1
"test te" 78 "lichess.org" 1 1
"test te" 79 "auction.co.kr" 1 1
"test te" 80 "donga.com" 1 1

task comparison
table trainconditions
keys 1 2 3 4 5
delay 500
show background 0 0 0 ##creates a grey background
show text @3 0 -200
show bitmap scale 0 -50
rate option pos 0 -100
rate option labels Notrust trust
rate 5000 5
clear 1 2 3
readkey @4 100
clear 1 2
if @4 == 1 && RATE_STATUS == CORRECT
set $trialpay 10
set $trialcorrect 1
set &myglobalvariable increase $trialpay
show background 0 0 0 ## creates a black background
show bitmap earn
show text $trialpay 0 60 0 0 0
show text &myglobalvariable 0 130 0 0 0
delay 800
fi
if @4 == 1 && RATE_STATUS != CORRECT
set $trialpay 1
set $trialcorrect 0
set &myglobalvariable increase $trialpay
show background 0 0 0 ## creates a white background
show text $trialpay 0 60 0 0 0
show text &myglobalvariable 0 130 0 0 0
delay 800
fi
save @1 @2 RATE RATE_RT RATE_STATUS @4 $trialcorrect

block real
message experiment
tasklist
comparison 80 no_repeat
end
feedback
set &TotCount sum c7
set &TotCount1 sum c7 ; select c6 == 1
#text 0 -50 &TotCount1; prefix "Your percentage correct is:" ; postfix "%"
text 0 -50 "The experiment is now over"
text 0 100 "Press space bar to start completing the questionnaires."
end

Unshortafleur Guest	bug in no_repeat option & feedback for likert scale Jan 12, 2020 12:13:36 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by Unshortafleur on Jan 12, 2020 12:13:36 GMT Hi man, same problem here, i want to show a different image every trials but some are shown twice, even with all_before_repeat no_repeat. Hope they will fix it soon...

Kate Guest	bug in no_repeat option & feedback for likert scale Apr 24, 2020 0:51:10 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by Kate on Apr 24, 2020 0:51:10 GMT Hi there, I just had a similar issue with the no_repeat. I was able to get it to work by only using all_before_repeat (without no_repeat). So perhaps try that?

PsyToolkit Administrator Posts: 545	bug in no_repeat option & feedback for likert scale Apr 24, 2020 9:32:50 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by PsyToolkit on Apr 24, 2020 9:32:50 GMT Yes, you either use no_repeat or all_before_repeat

destinygonzales
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bug in no_repeat option & feedback for likert scale Dec 10, 2020 21:53:59 GMT

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Post by destinygonzales on Dec 10, 2020 21:53:59 GMT

I am having a similar issue to everyone above. I used another post to originally solve the repeat bug by transforming all my tasks into blocks and then implementing a blockorder so my tasks wouldn't switch back and forth (https://psytoolkit.boards.net/thread/23/block-test-tasklist-random-order). However, I prefer creating a block with both tasks so I can save data that can be interpreted more efficiently and effectively. I tried using both no_repeat and all_before_repeat, then tried both separately in the tasklist. No matter what I do, the experiment switches back and forth between my two tasks. I'd greatly appreciate any help with this. Thank you!

Here is my code for reference (I have put hashtags in areas where my original block solution worked):

sounds
abc abc.mp3
amazinggrace amazing_grace.mp3
zipadeedoodah zip_a_dee_doo_dah.mp3
dontstopbelieving dont_stop_believing.mp3
victumy victumy.mp3
glarks glarks.mp3
utolaze utolaze.mp3
piacuck piacuck.mp3
selch selch.mp3
claft claft.mp3
droom droom.mp3
fallot fallot.mp3
mamp mamp.mp3
byth byth.mp3
allageppy allageppy.mp3
compinsale compinsale.mp3
abert abert.mp3
catamalt catamalt.mp3
zumb zumb.mp3
hibot hibot.mp3
prosh prosh.mp3
citotive citotive.mp3
wauk wauk.mp3
orge orge.mp3
woy woy.mp3

table MyMelodies
1 abc
2 amazinggrace
3 zipadeedoodah
4 dontstopbelieving

table MyBlurbs
utolaze victumy selch claft piacuck #NONMATCH
selch claft utolaze droom glarks
abert compinsale wauk woy zumb
droom piacuck claft selch catamalt
citotive wauk fallot victumy byth
byth prosh hibot zumb compinsale
glarks compinsale allageppy orge woy
piacuck glarks fallot victumy piacuck #MATCH
claft piacuck droom selch droom
mamp catamalt citotive orge mamp
allageppy victumy byth prosh prosh
woy orge zumb claft zumb
glarks fallot droom catamalt fallot
wauk hibot allageppy utolaze wauk

bitmaps
FamiliarityInstructions
FamiliarityRating
WMInstructions
ProbeQuestion

options
fullscreen
set &my_intertrialinterval 2000

task FamiliarityTask
show bitmap FamiliarityInstructions
delay 3000
clear -1
table MyMelodies
set $mysound @2
sound $mysound
delay 12000
silence @2
keys 0 1 2 3 4
show bitmap FamiliarityRating
readkey 1 5000
save BLOCKNAME BLOCKORDER TASKNAME KEY RT $mysound
clear -1
show text "+"
delay &my_intertrialinterval
clear screen

task Nonwords
show bitmap WMInstructions
delay 4000
clear -1
table MyBlurbs
set $mysound1 @1
set $mysound2 @2
set $mysound3 @3
set $mysound4 @4
set $mysound5 @5
delay &my_intertrialinterval
sound $mysound1
delay 2000
silence $mysound1
sound $mysound2
delay 2000
silence $mysound2
sound $mysound3
delay 2000
silence $mysound3
sound $mysound4
delay 2000
silence $mysound4
keys Y N
show bitmap ProbeQuestion
delay 2000
clear -1
sound $mysound5
delay 2000
silence $mysound5
readkey 1 4000
save BLOCKNAME BLOCKORDER TASKNAME KEY RT TABLEROW $mysound5
clear -1
show text "+"
delay &my_intertrialinterval
clear screen

block Mainblock
#bitmap FamiliarityInstructions
#delay 3000
tasklist
FamiliarityTask 2 no_repeat
#endtask
#end tasklist
#delay 3000
#bitmap WMInstructions
#delay 4000
#tasklist
Nonwords 2 no_repeat
end

destinygonzales
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bug in no_repeat option & feedback for likert scale Dec 16, 2020 4:02:25 GMT

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Post by destinygonzales on Dec 16, 2020 4:02:25 GMT

Dec 10, 2020 21:53:59 GMT destinygonzales said:

I am having a similar issue to everyone above. I used another post to originally solve the repeat bug by transforming all my tasks into blocks and then implementing a blockorder so my tasks wouldn't switch back and forth (https://psytoolkit.boards.net/thread/23/block-test-tasklist-random-order). However, I prefer creating a block with both tasks so I can save data that can be interpreted more efficiently and effectively. I tried using both no_repeat and all_before_repeat, then tried both separately in the tasklist. No matter what I do, the experiment switches back and forth between my two tasks. I'd greatly appreciate any help with this. Thank you!

(code for reference is in post above)

Two things helped me resolve these issues.

1) Instead of creating a block with both tasks and then repeating that block, I created a blockorder that repeats the order of the blocks in a fixed sequence.

blockorder fixed

  FamiliarityBlockOne

  WMBlockOne

  FamiliarityBlockOne

  WMBlockOne

  FamiliarityBlockOne 

  WMBlockOne

  MyBreak

  FamiliarityBlockOne

  WMBlockOne

  FamiliarityBlockOne

  WMBlockOne

  FamiliarityBlockOne

  WMBlockOne

2) I also realized the no_repeat direction only helps avoid repeating a row in your table immediately after, so technically it would be correct if your experiment plays 1-2-3-1 (since the 1 is not repeated in the next trial). I decided to use all_before_repeat and that fixed the issue along with the first solution.

task FamiliarityTaskOne

  table MyMelodies

  set $mysound @2 

  sound $mysound

  delay 12000

  silence @2

  keys 0 1 2 3 4

  show bitmap FamiliarityRating  

  readkey 1 5000

  clear -1

  save BLOCKNAME BLOCKORDER TASKNAME KEY RT $mysound

  show bitmap YellowFixation

  delay &my_intertrialinterval

  clear screen



block FamiliarityBlockOne

  bitmap FamiliarityInstructions

  delay 3000

  tasklist

    FamiliarityTaskOne 1 all_before_repeat

  end

Last Edit: Dec 16, 2020 4:06:11 GMT by destinygonzales

bug in no_repeat option & feedback for likert scale

Post by isadiskin on Oct 28, 2019 5:54:44 GMT

Post by Unshortafleur on Jan 12, 2020 12:13:36 GMT

Post by Kate on Apr 24, 2020 0:51:10 GMT

Post by PsyToolkit on Apr 24, 2020 9:32:50 GMT

Post by destinygonzales on Dec 10, 2020 21:53:59 GMT

Post by destinygonzales on Dec 16, 2020 4:02:25 GMT